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i think everyone knows by now me and you do not share the same veiws on this hahha, but i think Tony Blair has done well here what is is saying is what i had hoped the bombers won’t get away with what they did and when he said this:

“But if you come to this country from abroad, then don’t meddle in extremism,” he said. “Because if you meddle in it, and engage in it, you’re going back out again.”

I think he is totally right, the message is clear you are welcome in England so long as you don’t engage in these activities, i don;t think he is unreasonable. a man came on to English TV saying that he felt what these bombers had done was good and they should be a shining symbol to all nations he was happy that these types of poeple were now operating in London, this is why Tony Blair is clamping down on this, what saddens me is the real Muslims are being hounded, because some silly people feel that what these bombers did is part of the Muslim religion but it’s not they have taken some very very very very genral parts of the religon and changed it to try and justifi what they did.

Tony Blair only wants to ammend the act so that these people can be delt with no one is saying we will no longer have Human Rights

Posted by Katy on 5 August 2005 @ 2pm

hi Katy

of course we do not share the same view, probably because I’m a more malicious then you are! I’ve seen too many things that resemble me Alert Lights to think that we will be safer.
No matter what that idiot man said at the TV, the stupidity is something you have to count, and if you are the government is not a single man that will help you deciding something like Changing the Human Rights Act!
Come on Katy, don’t you see that they are pressing on us? Don’t you see that with the pretence of terrorism they are empowering themselves? Do you really think that this lowering of the human rights will not touch your life?!?!?!?

the message is clear you are welcome in England so long as you don’t engage in these activities

The message that is clear to me is that you will be welcome in England as soon as they will decide differently, and this does not imply being a terrorist, but means that if you have ideals different from their own you will be expelled!
Your freedom of expressing your idea will be cut out!!!! Can’t you really see it?

I never meant to tell that the Human Rights will be abolished; what i meant to tell is that they will be lowered until the goverment is able to control you and decide if you are right or wrong in an arbitrary way!

Posted by Carlo on 5 August 2005 @ 3pm

“and this does not imply being a terrorist, but means that if you have ideals different from their own you will be expelled!”

Im sorry but your very wrong England host many different religions and cultures the people are British Citizens and we celebrate that and we are proud, Tony Blair has already said that he does not want the Muslims and other organisations to be at harm and they won’t and if you resurch enough you will see that the Muslims support getting ride of these people because it is not a religion it is a cult and i said it before ill say it agian it is to get rid of these brainwashing groups that tell these once good people that they have a duty in life to kill, from what i read from what you say you support these killers, no one wants to take away your Human Rights or anyone elses, they just want to try and make things right and of course changing the Law will help because it will stop these bad organisations from forming, and you can say ohh there are bad in all religions well nothing like this, nothing that tells you go kill yourself and others.

What you fail to realise is that Englands laws don’t right now affect Europe so it has nothing to do with Italy not unless Europe choose to adopt the same laws and that in the end is up to them, no it won’t touch my life while im here im safe it might touch my dad’s life though when he is at work or my sisters when she is on her way to the hospital, or her friends that work in London and take the transport that they like bomb, Can’t you see, that these organisations are bad ?

You are so caugh up in Human rights you don’t see the full pictures, this has to stop, and it can be stoped I give Tony Blair a pat on the back he has had a hard month and for once he is comig up with soomething reasonable that should have been inforced some months ago.

Posted by Katy on 5 August 2005 @ 3pm

England host many different religions and cultures

I’m not talking about religions.
I’m not talking about cultures.
I’m talking about Ideas and Ideals!
If you have different opinions from the government one, they will be free to send you away. not for the color of their skin, not for their religion.
Do you think this is Science Fiction?
Take a look to the history of Chile under Pinochet (his government was responsible for many killings and violations of human rights). This is what de death of democracy will become!

from what i read from what you say you support these killers

?!?!?!?!?!?!?
NO, Katy! I think they MUST be put in jail for the rest of their life if they are condamned!

no one wants to take away your Human Rights

Katy! Read the post! read the link to the cnn article! Tony Blair has clearly told that he want to change the Human Rights Act! What do you think this means?!?!?!

changing the Law will help because it will stop these bad organisations from forming

There are thousands of laws that you can change to prevent this. You can make new laws to help the process. You should think to create an International Court to be togheter against the terror…
So Why would they change the Human Rights Act?
Do you have an answer for that?

You are so caugh up in Human rights you don’t see the full pictures

You are so caught up in hate and anger that you can’t understand that “someone” is going to change something Bigger than you can think! It’s not me who isn’t looking the big picture!
You talk about Human Rights lik any other laws, forgotting that these rules are on the base on our civility!

What is the Human Rights Act?
This…
This
an, of course..
THIS!

This are the Articles of The “Human Right Act” of Great Britain:

• Right to Life
• Prohibition of Torture
• Prohibition of slavery and forced labour
• Right to liberty and security
• Right to a fair trial
• No punishment without law
• Right to respect for private and family life
• Freedom of expression
• Freedom of assembly and association
• Right to marry
• Prohibition of discrimination
• Restrictions on political activity of aliens
• Prohibition of abuse of rights
• Limitation on use of restrictions on rights

Tell me:
What of these can limit the security of England?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Posted by Carlo on 5 August 2005 @ 9pm

PS: Katy, mine is not an attack against England.

My attack is against EVERYONE who wants tho change the Human Rights to shape them to their needs.

If italian government had done the same things I will have told 100 times worst about them!

It’s not England.

It’s our Rights!

Please, read what Amnesty International told about what happened today!

Posted by Carlo on 5 August 2005 @ 9pm