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Unconventional Weapons in Iraq

In Thoughts on 25 November 2005 with 12 comments

I have to admit that this is one of those things I’d like not to write about. It’s not because of the war itself, even if it is enough as weight to carry, but because I think that those things should NEVER happens, NEVER, neither in a War!
Why did they?
They used White Phosphorous in Fallujah! Do you know what white phosphorous is? Do you know the results of it?
Go to wikipedia to get some technical informations… but read this note:
This is a particularly poisonous element with 50 mg being the average fatal dose (white phosphorus is generally considered to be the lethal form of phosphorus while phosphate and orthophosphate are essential nutrients)

“It was not used against civilians” Lt. Col. Barry Venable said.
FOOL! How can something like that be an “Intelligent Weapon“? FOOL!

I cannot publish the photos of the corpses hit by the White Phosphorus, I really can’t, they are too heavy!

We have to reitre IMMEDIATELY all of our “PEACE FORCE” from the Iraq.
Yes, because the Peace Force do not uses “White Phosphorus” to keep the peace.
And of course you should start calling them with their name: Invasion Force, not Peace Force!

I have some tears in my eyes, because I cannot believe that all this is happening under our eyes, and no one is doing ANYTHING to stop this!

The day someone will use unconventional weapons on us will be an act of terrorism, but now what is it?
Do you really believe that the civilians were not hit?

I don’t want to listen our premiers shouting against the terrorists, being terrorists themselves!
SHUT UP! If you do something like this you have to go home! NOW! You as Head of the State, taking back all of our men from a Free Country!

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Note about the White Phosphorus
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“This cloud is then ignited and the subsequent fireball sears the surrounding area while consuming the oxygen in this area. The lack of oxygen creates an enormous overpressure … Personnel under the cloud are literally crushed to death. Outside the cloud area, the blast wave travels at some 3,000 metres per second … As a result, a fuel-air explosive can have the effect of a tactical nuclear weapon without residual radiation … Those personnel caught directly under the aerosol cloud will die from the flame or overpressure. For those on the periphery of the strike, the injuries can be severe. Burns, broken bones, contusions from flying debris and blindness may result. Further, the crushing injuries from the overpressure can create air embolism within blood vessels, concussions, multiple internal haemorrhages in the liver and spleen, collapsed lungs, rupture of the eardrums and displacement of the eyes from their sockets.”
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…a nice way to die…


12 Comments

Your right what they did was extream, and although things are different for Italy as they are for Britain i still maintain that if they pull troops out now they will loose face, face that Britain can’t afford to loose tell me why you hate the French ? i tell the reason why British people hate them, its because they are classed as horrible people who only care for themselves, the fact they didn’t go to Iraq just helped that and lets face it if you read the news they have HUGE problems in France and its because of Muslims. Ok so we are going away from the point.The best thing we can do is trust in the people that are there to do a best job as they can in the situation, yes maybe going to Iraq was a bad idea but whats done is done and pulling out won’t help, the fighting will still continue people will still get killed and more inocent people will be killed if we pull out that if we don’t, think well if there are no soilders in Iraq they will kill those innocent people who were brave enough to go agaisnt the govenment and WHY ? just because they can, because they don’t agree with the govenment because they have different thoughts, no one said this would be easy no one said people wouldn’t be killed and yes i uderstand innocent people how many inoccent people died in world war 1 and 2 ? but this is what they are trying to stop and we need to give them time to achieve that, i don’t want Britain to look like than can be walked all over and if we pull out we will look weak and that will give Iraq and other countries and great gap to walk all over us and and im glad to say Tony Blair won’t let it happen.

you should read this link : http://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/page1260.asp

Posted by Katy on 25 November 2005 @ 11am

Katy…
sorry if I tell you this, but you do not hit the point!
Our government has used ILLEGAL WEAPONS!

THERE IS NO FACE TO LOOSE! OUR NATIONS HAS ALREADY LOST THEIR FACES

Why if our governments use those weapons no one is telling them anything and if the same weapon is used by someone else, we call them TERRORISTS?

I admire France and Germany because of their position on Iraq: they are not slave to the USA!
Italy Is! Italy is a slave of the power!

Those who decided to use White Phosphorous should be judge for War Crimes!

This is what is told by UN! So we have to create a trial for them.

STOP!

By The Way… I have NEVER Talked about religion, Katy. Religion is out of this discourse. War Crime, not Religion!

Posted by Carlo on 25 November 2005 @ 11am

im not going to argue we have different views and im not saying what they did was right i did say that, but what im saying is wrong is pulling the troops out and if you read the link you will see why i beleive this.

Posted by Katy on 25 November 2005 @ 11am

Katy,
did Iraq have ANY mass destruction weapons before the latest war agains them?
Did USA find ANY chemical or nuclear or long range weapons?

No

It has been clarified that Iraq was without threatening weapons during the latest campaign against them.

Saddam Hussein is a War Criminal, this is clear, but Saddam is no longer there. Weapons are no longer there after the first Gulf War, in 1991. So why are we there?
In the link you suggested there are no evidences, there are rumors about the same illegal weapons we have used. Yes, I say WE, because Italy is guilty as USA is.

I’d like you to remember only one thing about our (both italian and britons) soldiers there: during the first gulf war and subsequentially in the balcans the ammo where “Uranium Ammo”. Those ammo killed the “bad guys”, as any ammo do, but when the soldiers returned home, they start dying because of the uranium. This time the same things is happening again!

but, of course, this is my very personal opinion, and every nation should decide for itself. Italy will decideif Berlusconi did well to support USA the next year, during the elections.

Posted by Carlo on 25 November 2005 @ 12pm

http://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/Page281.asp

Posted by Katy on 25 November 2005 @ 1pm

http://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/Page275.asp

Posted by Katy on 25 November 2005 @ 1pm

Yes, of course Saddam Hussein HAD HAD mass murder weapon.

But not in this war!

Provide me a document that tell clearly that Iraq had those weapon when USA decided to declare war!
I’m sorry to tell you that you can’t, because also the UN confirmed that there were NO mass murder weapon in iraq after the 2002!

The removal of these hypothetical weapons has been the cause of this war…
…not only those weapons was unexisting, but we used the weapons they were attacked for…

Posted by Carlo on 25 November 2005 @ 2pm

Saddam Hussein is a War Criminal, this is clear, but Saddam is no longer there. Weapons are no longer there after the first Gulf War, in 1991. So why are we there?

but your going agaisnt what you said you clearly told me they had no weapons of mass distruction after 1991, and that wasn’t true.

do you honestly beleive that they have or had no weapons of mass distruction when america and co attacked if thats true then im the Qeens mother.

Posted by Katy on 25 November 2005 @ 3pm

I honestly believe that in 2004 Iraq had NO Mass Murder Weapon!
I believe that USA started the war for the Oil (economic) and for the Mass Control (Psycology).

I am honoured to have the Queen Mother here, in FCHOUSE!
:)

Divverent points of view doesn’t mean one is right and the other is wrong. It means debate, it means that if you believe in something there should be a reason.
If I believe that Iraq hadn’t had the Chemical or Nuclear weapons because of the facts: no one have ever found them, and someone in the White House admitted that they had NO evidence of it! (If you want I can search who he was and who reported it… it’s all public!)

Bye

Posted by Carlo on 25 November 2005 @ 4pm

and the winner is ….

Posted by fco on 25 November 2005 @ 5pm

but you beleive the white house is corupt, you are one who believes that it was America that bombed there own twin towers,why would you beleive what they say ? maybe like the twin towers thats what they want you to beleive.

are you really willing to take the risk that if even 1% Iraq have Weapons of mass distruction. Im not, lets face it if they have it and use it then we will have something to talk about, thats if we are still here.

Like i said before i don’t want to argue, i just putting my veiws across.

Posted by Katy on 25 November 2005 @ 5pm

Hi Katy, about 911 and Iraq I know you understand the difference… so I will not tell you again why the two episodes are different.
About the Mass Murder Weapons… well North Korea has is, Russia has it, Pakistan has it, India has it, France has it.
Why attack Iraq?

Well… has North Korea petroleum? No! and Pakistan, India, Russia or France?
No!

You know who has petroleum? Venezuela, and you know well what is going on between them and USA…
…maybe are all coincidences…
…maybe not!

But be carefull: I’m not, in any case, telling something bad against britons or americans. I’m arguing about the head of the state! It UK wants to continue this “Peace Mission” I cannot tell anything! I am telling that ITALIAN SOLDIERS MUST RETURN HOME

and do you know why???

Because the 11th article of the Italian Constitution tell that:

L’ Italia ripudia la guerra come strumento di offesa alla libertà degli altri popoli e come mezzo di risoluzione delle controversie internazionale

that means:

Italy repudiates the war as offense instrument to the other populations freedom and as way of international controversies resolution

Do you understand why Italy shouldn’t be in Iraq?

This post is mainly against Italy and Italian Government, of which I do not share the Warfare decisions.

The winner is no one. The loosers are all the innocent deads, from both the sides: italians, britons, americans or iraqis.

Peace is something we shouldn’t forget!

Posted by Carlo on 25 November 2005 @ 7pm

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